Reading this made me realize how much of what we call morality is really just stability made possible by full shelves and steady power
So I wonder, when we talk about protecting “tradition” as Chesterton’s fence suggests, how do we distinguish between structures that genuinely uphold civilization and those that only preserve power for a few?
That's a great question and one the very same Chesterton’s Fence challenges us to recognize. For example, attacking the patriarchy and pushing it away unlocked a lot of bad male behaviors because the patriarchy first controls men and then controls women attempting to enter men’s spaces.
The matriarchy was abandoned overtly though it still works through soft power. We thought the patriarchy was about control but missed who it controlled.
All part of the conversation down to what you ask.
I listened to this one while walking, but I am pretty confident I heard the words "dick", "sperm", and "semen." You sure you should be lecturing people on the nature of evil there, Satan?
The LDS have a good plan. I live in Arizona with a lot of Mormon friends. During COVID I joked about in biting the Missionaries in when things get crazy to take advantage of that 2 year store.
Seriously though. It would be useful to dig into some of the reasons behind the loss of food supply and see where some of the upstream frailties could be addressed to build some more resilience.
I wonder if that might actually show things to be more resilient than we first thought.
The pandemic was an interesting example. Imagine a worldwide plague that shuts down large parts of the economy. You could easily draw a logical path towards the breakdown of society. And yet….it didn’t breakdown. All things considered, society did pretty well and without marshal law.
Have done those ‘what if’ scenarios. Fear and anger are powerful emotions - two sides of the same coin according to Col. Jeff Cooper of Gunsite. He wrote a short book on seven attitudes to win a gunfight but I can’t remember the title.
His use of anger was detrimental to my well being. I have also gave thought to Christian nonviolence. I have more enjoyable mental health but I also have kept my firearms.
The anger on both sides of the political spectrum have curtailed dialogue and compromise. Having read some libertarian and state rights perspectives, allowing the states to experiment with and set different boundaries rather than have the federal government dictate one for everyone, then people moving to states the align more with their perspective.
I have a pessimistic view on mankind’s long term survival on its current trajectory. Nature plays the long game and determines the rules and the survivors. If we won’t play by her rules, we will be eliminated, or a large percentage of us will be, so that our parasitic affect on nature is brought back into a more symbiotic balance.
Reading this made me realize how much of what we call morality is really just stability made possible by full shelves and steady power
So I wonder, when we talk about protecting “tradition” as Chesterton’s fence suggests, how do we distinguish between structures that genuinely uphold civilization and those that only preserve power for a few?
That's a great question and one the very same Chesterton’s Fence challenges us to recognize. For example, attacking the patriarchy and pushing it away unlocked a lot of bad male behaviors because the patriarchy first controls men and then controls women attempting to enter men’s spaces.
The matriarchy was abandoned overtly though it still works through soft power. We thought the patriarchy was about control but missed who it controlled.
All part of the conversation down to what you ask.
I listened to this one while walking, but I am pretty confident I heard the words "dick", "sperm", and "semen." You sure you should be lecturing people on the nature of evil there, Satan?
(please read the above in "Church Lady" voice)
Not sure where but you're probably not far off.
This was kind of dark.
Maybe you know about these ideas, maybe not. Living in Utah I learned from LDS about the idea of the “two year store”. I wrote about that once:
https://collettegreystone.substack.com/p/thoughts-on-being-civil-and-self
Other sources: https://easyhealthyfoods.com/why-do-mormons-store-food/
The LDS church used to provide canneries (25 years ago) where anyone could go and can their own food, now there are only few actual canneries: https://ezprepping.com/lds-cannery-food-storage-center-locations-near-you/#canning-locations
There’s a whole network of preppers: https://prepper.com/
You don’t have to rely on the grocery store - ever - if you don’t want to.
I know that wasn’t the gist of what you were presenting here….
The LDS have a good plan. I live in Arizona with a lot of Mormon friends. During COVID I joked about in biting the Missionaries in when things get crazy to take advantage of that 2 year store.
Wow. You’ve thoroughly depressed me here Michael.
Only joking.
Seriously though. It would be useful to dig into some of the reasons behind the loss of food supply and see where some of the upstream frailties could be addressed to build some more resilience.
I wonder if that might actually show things to be more resilient than we first thought.
The pandemic was an interesting example. Imagine a worldwide plague that shuts down large parts of the economy. You could easily draw a logical path towards the breakdown of society. And yet….it didn’t breakdown. All things considered, society did pretty well and without marshal law.
I agree. It helps frame the seriousness. I keep covid in mind all the time.
Have done those ‘what if’ scenarios. Fear and anger are powerful emotions - two sides of the same coin according to Col. Jeff Cooper of Gunsite. He wrote a short book on seven attitudes to win a gunfight but I can’t remember the title.
His use of anger was detrimental to my well being. I have also gave thought to Christian nonviolence. I have more enjoyable mental health but I also have kept my firearms.
The anger on both sides of the political spectrum have curtailed dialogue and compromise. Having read some libertarian and state rights perspectives, allowing the states to experiment with and set different boundaries rather than have the federal government dictate one for everyone, then people moving to states the align more with their perspective.
I have a pessimistic view on mankind’s long term survival on its current trajectory. Nature plays the long game and determines the rules and the survivors. If we won’t play by her rules, we will be eliminated, or a large percentage of us will be, so that our parasitic affect on nature is brought back into a more symbiotic balance.