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Marginal Gains's avatar

I do not have a social media account. However, I try to confuse streaming algorithms by picking random movies and series, which I will never watch while multitasking (when TV is not my focus).

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

That's certainly a method to obfuscate.

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May 27, 2024Edited
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Ramon Bello's avatar

I wish there was a social media site that curates power to the users in all aspects, including "turning off ads" as a choice.

Yes, I know, who will pay the bills? However, why don't we incentivize social media users who voluntary watch ads get paid directly from the marketers? The social media site could offer 90% of ad revenue and the owners keep 10% to maintain social media site operational.

I wonder who would be bold enough to start such website.

Speaking of algorithms, how can one improve the acceptable content we want. YouTube shares videos of unwanted videos, but even liking videos that I watch is not enough to expand the content I like to see.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

That would be interesting.

Argo the Second's avatar

Feed it nothing but shitposts so that it completes the classic copypasta. Might be showing my age a little, but here's my Turing meme test:

Katanas are underpowered in d20...

I sexually identify as an Apache attack helicopter....

What the fuck did you say about me, you little bitch...

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

I mean, there is that option too! 🤣

Ramon Bello's avatar

Lol

Laura Wing's avatar

Excellent advice.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Glad you enjoyed it. Great to have you here too!

Andrew Smith's avatar

I thought for sure this was going to be all about your own personal algorithm, but then again, that's sort of a central thesis here already.

Daniel Nest's avatar

Yup, it's good practice to remember. Every now and then, I go through my Facebook feed and proactively snooze/unfollow/"see less content like this" everything. For a while things look clean, but then more and more noise slowly creeps in. So you gotta really make this a habit more than a one-off exercise. Also forces you to be a bit more conscious of what you're consuming.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Exactly. The habit part is important.

Daniel Nest's avatar

Yeah. It's just frustrating that you're sort of having to fight the current to use any social media. I'd love to be able to curate things very directly and permanently instead of being dragged into algorithmically determined flows, but SoMe's gotta do what SoMe's gotta do.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Yeah. The algorithm never makes my feed better. I normally do a purge/clean when I notice how bad it got!!

Beowulf Obsidian's avatar

Very useful, Thanks for this!

Kelly Thompson TNWWY's avatar

How do I unfollow a bunch of substacks that I hit follow on indiscriminately when new here?

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Good question. If you go to their profile and hit the three dots : settings you can unfollow.

Claudia Befu's avatar

Great tips, thanks 🙏

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Fantastic! It's nice to know there are steps to reclaim agency.

Andrew Heard's avatar

It's funny because I intentionally don't tell my algorithm anything or as little as possible. The only thing I report is blatant and true spam which can't possibly be good for anyone.

Michael Woudenberg's avatar

I find when I put my finger on the scale I can certainly direct it back from the shit-show and toward things that are more edifying.

Andrew Heard's avatar

Well that's probably a good idea but I find that my way has left things completely open. Because the algorithm doesn't know what I want, it doesn't feed me things that are negative or positive. I get people who are from all over the spectrum and people who aren't political at all.

Winston MacKelvie's avatar

Wise words

Adelaide Dupont's avatar

Or whatever your favourite search engine is.

Like DuckDuckGo or Ecosia or something which is not Google!

I understand searching Google for consumer needs/things we saw in ads first.

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Michael Woudenberg's avatar

Good to hear and it's honestly not that hard to keep them off. We just keep them busy with real-life engagements too.

As far as algorithm training, I haven't had much issue with Substack to be honest. As you mentioned it's not shoving crap in my face via an algorithm and it's normally just those I'm subscibed to / follow / interact with (which I have to be careful if I bump into a troll) I appreciate Substack for that a lot!